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Tuesday
Dec072010

WikiLeaks: China is Lightyears Ahead in Tech Innovation

Hidden among several hundred thousand government cables leaked by WikiLeaks last week comes fascinating insight into China's amazing technology research.
In the biometrics field, Chinese researchers are developing technology that can identify an individual by their footsteps:

The Chinese Academy of Science Institute of Intelligent Machines ... has developed a biometrics device that uses a person’s pace to identify them. The device measure weight and two-dimensional sheer forces applied by a person’s foot during walking to create a uniquely identifiable biometrics profile.

The device can be covertly installed in a floor and is able to collect biometrics data on individuals covertly without their knowledge. When questioned about the device’s potential applications, IIM officials stated the device was being used by “secret” customers and was not available on the commercial market.

In other news, a cable reveals that Chinese researchers are chasing the holy grail of energy: fusion power. And in 2009, they made significant progress by successfully maintaining a 10-million degree Celsius plasma nuclear fusion reaction for 400 seconds. (European researchers have maxed their device out at five seconds.)

Finally, another cable indicated that officials in China are aggressively chasing quantum teleportation and cryptography with the hopes of achieving "totally secure communication." (And, probably, the ability to hack it.)

Reader Comments (42)

And I thought they were still a third world communist nation. Weird. We should probably go to war with them before they become to powerful and overrun us with invincible/invisible/god-mode soldiers.

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterWags

Well.... they are communists. I think that maybe America has become a communist because we are "friends" with communists. Where have we gone??! America is a traitor to America!

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSteph

if they do figure out how to make a fusion reactor that is commercially viable, and then refuse to share the technology, then thats WW 3 for sure!

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterconcernedskeptic

'Wags' and 'Steph', the pair of you are fucking morons. Firstly, 'Wags', you thought that china was a third world country? Oh dear, if you're that thick, i worry for your saftey when you cross the road. Secondly, 'wags' again, China are already the most powerful country in the world, if they wanted to start a war, they would have done it by now. Now, 'Steph', "I think that maybe America has become a communist because we are "friends" with communists." - proof that girls should stay off the internet. 'Concernedskeptic', fair point, although i think that as China and America are allies, if China chose not to share their technology, as long as they didn't share it with anyone not part of the 'Allied Powers', then America would not declare war, however if China chose to not share the information with the Allied Powers but shared it with say North Korea, then yes, i believe it would lead to World War 3.

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterjeffreyroyronson

Y'all a bunch of morons. Lucky for us non-US citizen, we are a LOT brighter than you will ever be, so there's hope for mankind

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMars

To hack quantum entanglement, you'd have to hack space-time itself. The theory (proven in experiments) is that subatomic particles can be in two locations at once. If you have instance 1 of a subatomic particle and spin it a certain way, the second instance of the subatomic particle will mirror its actions. It can be considered "faster than light" communication, and has been reproduced in laboratories.
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/19793

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEli

jeffreyroyronson . I was with you until you said females shouldn't be online. Just because one chick says something you don't like doesn't mean you can ban them from the internet.

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKuWi

China Eat You America! China Best!

December 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAmericun

that designation doesn't have anything to do with an economy or population. It has more with the cold war in the 1950s than anything else. And second, so what that China is ahead in a few areas of research. That has more to do with the current states of funding for the basic sciences there as compared to here than anything else.

December 9, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSteve

Oh man, do you really think America could beat CHINA? Couldn't beat Vietnam, couldn't beat Somalia, can't even beat the Taliban and they live in CAVES. China would kick your sorry ass without even raising a sweat.

December 11, 2010 | Unregistered Commentera peasant

China lost their war with Vietnam in 1979 rather badly if you knew your history. They even had four times as many solders and they lost badly. They've not been able to find their
terrorist bombers either in their far West areas. Most of the people they've arrested have nothing do with the bombings and the bombings still happen.


I think you really need to read a little bit about what is going on in China now and in their past as most of what you wrote about doesn't really have much factorial basis. Even now China doesn't believe they would win a war with the USA if you read what they say in their journals. And having been to China recently it's surprising how little the average citizen has benefited from the many changes in China right now.

December 11, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterreverai

Derp derp.

Headline: "China is Lightyears Ahead in Tech Innovation"

2nd sentence: "Chinese researchers *are* developing technology"

BIG difference from "Chinese researchers *have* developed technology..." Means it's something they're trying to accomplish, but have not yet verifiably accomplished.

I'd offer insight to some new American technology but it's not needed to refute your argument.

December 15, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterPhil E. Drifter

@Phil E. Drifter: No, the title is correct. Innovation doesn't mean finished product - read the full article and it shows that they're much further on the path to a finished product. And that shows innovation.

December 17, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterIzkata

Don't Japan/China own 11% of the USA's debt? Uh oh.

December 24, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterCabo Golf

China may indeed have lost wars in 1979...so did the US. Judging current war capabilities based on events from over 30 years ago is a pretty bad idea. Neither China nor US has committed much in the way of resources towards areas like Somalia...so neither has done particularly well in those types of arenas.

China is communist in name only (just like the USSR was). China is simply a dictatorship (propaganda departments push the communist meme) with a lot of financial power (handed to them by the West and their spending sprees) to build a lot of capabilities. China has become scary enough militarily that recently both Australia and Turkey have been doing military exercises with China instead of the US. China is on track for deploying aircraft carriers in the next year or so. China used to purchase Russian military hardware and duplicate them, but now they have gotten good enough to actually improve on the designs of the hardware.

To think China is not a world player is just stupid in this day.

December 24, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterunbound

The title of the article is "China is Light Years Ahead in Tech Innovation" and not whether China is a "world player". I replied to a couple of comments some how were decline of the USA compared to China. A reading of history showed China had matched us in failure in almost every way and they're ahead in that area in places too.

And while both Australia and Turkey have done military exercises with China, that hasn't stopped them also doing with the USA.

I think the China you have in your mind is perhaps the China of 2025 when they might be much more dangerous than they are in the year 2010. They have a long way before they are much more than a regional military power. They are laying the ground work for this change but hasn't changed yet. China thinks that way, the US thinks that way, Japan thinks that way, Australia that way. One should read they write about in their own countries to get a sense of how they see themselves.

China has more impact economically around the world compared to their current military reach.

Steve

December 24, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSteve

Asians have great sewage ponds in which they grow algae. They feed Carp on the Algae, then grind the carp for food for farm-fished game-fish, which they sell to the ever-hungry Yankee Doodle! - Eat my shit, superior Yankee Doodle!
Asians have thirty Nuclear/electric plants under construction as we speak! They anticipated the world oil situation Yankee Doodle is about to face at the pumps later this decade, and circumvented it with Nuclear power. They also went big on Hydro, Wind, Wave, Tidal and Geothermal power, and if their population controls work, they stand to have adequate, relatively cheap power for their factories. The "Hamburger Craze is an American thing! Chinese, and most Asians eat modest diets mostly veggies, some fish, some pork and sustainable even for large populations.
America has a foreign oil dependent armed forces that is barley mannable today! North Korea alone has enough soldiers in uniform to inundate American forces! Americans are still planning and plotting WWII based fields of war! China took down the USA long ago on the economic field and now threatens on the intellectual field. Manufacturing was stolen from the American proletariat long ago! By the Chinese! Who in Hell is Yankee Doodle trying to kid?

December 27, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterUncle B

I find all of this funny, everyones always arguing over who's better, whos got the biggest "guns", and whos more likely to win. look at everything you guys are saying, seriously. where does this info come from? it comes from other people who fudge the data to look one way or another. yeah sure China has advanced farther than America in certain fields, and sure America has advanced farther than China in others. the whole US debt thing going on with China is a joke really, as far as the US goes all they have to do is collect the debt the rest of the world owes them and they can pay China with pocket change.

the only reason the US has "lost" any of their wars is cause they care for the innocents. they try to do as little collateral damage as possible. granted they do kill innocents but every one they've fought has wanted to just kill Americans. Oh and as far as "winning" a war goes, if were taking a war where one side gives up and we're fighting an end all war, theres no way china would win. reason why? they may have the technology to destroy the entire planet but dont have the know how of getting it there, let alone past the defences. America is hundreds of light years away from china in aviation technology, everything China manufactures is a pathetic copy of what America makes.America would have thousands of jets flying over and dropping bombs on mainland China before they could sign the papers declaring War and they would be none the wiser.

problem is thats a theoretical war where no one cares about the innocents who are going to die.

January 8, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterAE

Way to go China.
US ignorant people: go to rehab to get rid of oil, wars and talking crap about comunism.
US conscious people: take the lead.

January 9, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDD

Communism sucks. China is not communist, however. Us Americans should start thinking about a World Government.

January 11, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMersco

Here is a fact, and I know because it is job right now, the US electric grid has already been infiltrated by Chinese agent. You might call them hackers, you might call them testers. Whatever, doesn't matter. China has the capability to ruin the US in one fail swoop. Turn the power off and we cease to exist as a nation. End of story. China on the other hand has decentralized power grid structures set up like we used to via city state being independent of even regional power failure. It is called redundancy ladies.

If China wanted to bring us to ruin, they already have the capability. Not to mention that they already have EMP weapons that can easily be smuggled into the porous borders we have and detonate anywhere they like.

China should be a PARTNER with us, not a rival. We continue to think of them as the enemy and we are doomed to living as short order cooks flipping burgers.

Just a thought.

January 22, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterGrid Talk

Sorry for all the frigging typos.

January 22, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterGrid Talk

By reading some of the posts in here I reached to the conclusion that this little debate is about which country is the best. Everything is a matter of ego. Often people try to prove that they are better than others and that's what happening here and that is simply stupid.

February 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMe

Welcome to 2002.
"Stride and Cadence as a Biometric in Automatic Person Identification and Verification by Chiraz BenAbdelkader , Ross Cutler , Larry Davis"
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.10.3749

March 1, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterdrew

Grid Talk: The US does not have a centralized grid. At best you would get large regional blackouts. Your conspiracy theory sounds a bit far fetched, and I doubt your job is monitoring Chinese electrician infiltrations.

Everyone talking about war: Whoever tries to invade is going to lose. That's pretty much what it comes down to. There's no way China would keep fusion power from the US, they would just use it as a huge bargaining chip to get more money to their greedy selves. The Chinese government is extremely smart. They learned from the mistakes of old failed communist parties, and they have friends in extremely high places. They also have friends in extremely low places. They're pretty much on decent terms with everyone that matters.

They will never start a 3rd World War, because they know they would inevitably lose. I guarantee you if China was making a shot at taking over the world in a successful way, there would be so many nukes flying it would make that scene in Terminator look desirable.

March 1, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterknows nothing

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